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Jun. 12th, 2005 02:28 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
So more of the cover art for the new HP book has been released.
Interesting to see the joined hands of two wizards there. Speculation
is that it may be Snape. Guess we will find out next month. I would
like it to be Snape. My slashy heart would love to see my OTP become
canon, but I don't think JKR will do that. Indeed I would be very
surprised if any of the major characters hook up even semi-permanently
in the series.
Part of me thinks that she is telling an adventure story more than a coming of age story so romantic involvements are not going to be a priority in the books. Killing Voldie and fulfilling the prophesy is where it's at for her. Exploring the delicate nuances of first love just isn't a priority for her here. God gag me now that last sentence had to be one of the more pretentious pieces of writing I ever did. I just don't think romance is the focus and any that gets chucked in will not get the attention her main story will get. That said I do wonder whose hands those are, what the ring means and who the hell is the half blood prince. Everyone is wondering that so I am not alone with it.
I wonder if Lupin will step up to the plate and actually do something for Harry. I wonder if Dumbledore will be more open with Harry about the war. I wonder if Mrs. Weasley will finally realise that her idea of keeping the kids in the dark is a bad one. I understand where she is coming from but, it almost killed them and did kill Sirius to do it that way. Like I said lots of questions and about a month til we get answers.
The death lists that came out from just about all of us last fall are waiting to be dusted off when the book comes out. I expect there will be lots of LJ entries on how it sucked that character X got killed and why wasn't it character Y. I think this time there may well be a significant death on the DE's side also. I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to Bagman and Karkaroff. Personally I think Karkaroff is dead and Bagman also. Don't know if the goblins got Bagman or if it was the DE's, but I doubt either one of them is breathing still but answers in the canon would be nice. I would also like to know if Wormtail is still hanging onto Voldie's cloak and where was he when the DoM went down? Seems like all the major bad guys were there but him and Nagini. Hmm maybe Nagini ate him in his rat form? Lovely image that and if she did I hope she got indigestion myself.
Anticipation is a bitch and yes I am in that state right now.
Part of me thinks that she is telling an adventure story more than a coming of age story so romantic involvements are not going to be a priority in the books. Killing Voldie and fulfilling the prophesy is where it's at for her. Exploring the delicate nuances of first love just isn't a priority for her here. God gag me now that last sentence had to be one of the more pretentious pieces of writing I ever did. I just don't think romance is the focus and any that gets chucked in will not get the attention her main story will get. That said I do wonder whose hands those are, what the ring means and who the hell is the half blood prince. Everyone is wondering that so I am not alone with it.
I wonder if Lupin will step up to the plate and actually do something for Harry. I wonder if Dumbledore will be more open with Harry about the war. I wonder if Mrs. Weasley will finally realise that her idea of keeping the kids in the dark is a bad one. I understand where she is coming from but, it almost killed them and did kill Sirius to do it that way. Like I said lots of questions and about a month til we get answers.
The death lists that came out from just about all of us last fall are waiting to be dusted off when the book comes out. I expect there will be lots of LJ entries on how it sucked that character X got killed and why wasn't it character Y. I think this time there may well be a significant death on the DE's side also. I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to Bagman and Karkaroff. Personally I think Karkaroff is dead and Bagman also. Don't know if the goblins got Bagman or if it was the DE's, but I doubt either one of them is breathing still but answers in the canon would be nice. I would also like to know if Wormtail is still hanging onto Voldie's cloak and where was he when the DoM went down? Seems like all the major bad guys were there but him and Nagini. Hmm maybe Nagini ate him in his rat form? Lovely image that and if she did I hope she got indigestion myself.
Anticipation is a bitch and yes I am in that state right now.
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Date: 2005-06-12 08:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-06-12 03:28 pm (UTC)As for significant DE death? Yeah killing Lucius would ratchet the hatred between Draco and Harry, I suspect that's pretty much off the scale right now anyways since Harry put Lucius into Azkaban by Draco's lights. Right now as I see it Draco himself is at a crossroads situation. He can choose now without his father breathing down his neck. The question as I see it for him is will he got light or not. I think Narcissa may be the one who has the influence on that decision and since we know nothing of her really in canon except that she wanted him close to home, we don't know what her influence will be.
I would love as I said for the two hands shown with the fire around them to be Harry and Snape but I am not holding my breath although I rashly promised in Cordelia_V's LJ to give up caffeine in solemn honor of it if it were. I suspect my addiction is safe though.
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Date: 2005-06-12 08:19 pm (UTC)F---forever? *meeps at thought* Hell, I have no business drinking caffeine, but I still sneak it. *meeps again*
You know, I'm very much hoping to see more of Narcissa in HBP; there is such potential there.
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Date: 2005-06-13 12:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-06-12 05:00 pm (UTC)As you probably realize from my story, I really hope that someone, even several someones "step up to the place", emotionally, and do something for Harry. That kid's in a hellova fix, psychologically. Damn it, some adults are really needed to, here, to act towards Harry like they were adults and like Harry was something other than the cute but indestructible Boy Who Lived.
*grumpgrumpgrumpgrumpgrump*
Enough grousing on someone else's lj.
*grins*
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Date: 2005-06-12 08:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-06-12 08:14 pm (UTC)Well, as I said, I was furious at the end of Book 5. And now this is incredibly silly, b/c while I'd written acres of non-fiction, I'd never written fiction before, but I didn't trust JKR to get it right for Harry. Like sending one of my clients to an inept therapist. So by the November after Book 5 came out, I was writing away.
Again, sorry for hijacking your thread, but that bit is still sore with me. I'm actually not looking forward to Book 6. I'm kind of dreading it, and hoping it won't be too painful. *chuckles*
Part of me knows this is just a made-up character in a made-up world. But part of me knows, too, that it's a great & humane gift to in us to care, even sometimes, to care fiercely -- though that can be much more dangerous gift and needs cautious monitoring.
And so.....
May we both find happiness in Book 6, though I fear your OTP and my worry for Harry are both likely to find more irritant than balm.
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Date: 2005-06-13 12:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-06-13 01:53 am (UTC)In Colorado, I'd lose my license if I didn't report it, and I should! I'm way beyond very discouraging.
You know, it's one thing, if she'd kept it at the level of cardboard characters, though even here, I'm uneasy. I was furious after Book 4, too, w/ what was not done, or even considered, when all that happened to Cedric, and then he was sent back to the Dursleys. Though you know what pissed me off the most in Book 4? Interrupting his getting a hug from Molly. That stayed with me so strongly, I've written about that in Getting Harry Back. I mean, hell's bells, the kid has never experienced a loving hug from an adult, and then it gets interrupted before it gets started. And none of them say anything but go on like it hadn't happened?
I specialize in helping kids who have been severely abused & neglected. I KNOW what that does. And to heal it, you need that touch, that holding. I'm not talking the weird restraining & crap that gets tossed around as therapy -- provoke & restrain, a version of rebirthing shit -- which I suspect does more harm than good. I'm just talking smiles, and genuine words of real concern, and loving touches -- what I did with my own son when he was frightened -- that sort of stuff.
And Book 5 -- you're absolutely right! I lost it completely twice. First, w/ Umbridge. She tries to kill him, she does torture him. And then the woman doesn't go to Askaban? (Frankly, I'm not a whole lot happier w/ Snape. If any of my clients got treated by a teacher like he treats Harry? I'd have their license, and they'd never teach again.) And I, too, went ballistic w/ what Dumbledore did, and then didn't do. Harry just goes back to the Dursleys, w/o so much as a "kiss my" from the ol' D. At least there was that bit of stand up for Harry at the end -- Tonks, Remus & Moody. But in my mind, it was way too little, way too late.
And have you noticed? Not a single damn person in all 5 books has ever told Harry that they loved him? After everything that's happened to him?
Ach, don't get me started. I'm so pissed off about all that. I DO NOT LIKE ABUSE & NEGLECT OF CHILDREN. I DO NOT LIKE IT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. I DO NOT TOLERATE IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. AND I HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE ANYTHING THAT MINIMIZES IT!
JKR minimizes it, this after making the kid real. Bluntly put: how fucking dare her!
These kids are already invisible, and every service that ever thought about protecting or helping them is getting cut left & right.
I've got an extensive beta system for Getting Harry Back, b/c I thought that writing simply but clearly about child abuse would be VERY hard for most readers to take. I was extremely nervous about several chapters, where I was the clearest.
What I've found? Those chapters were the ones where I got my most & most touching reviews -- these from people who have, themselves, experienced similar abuse.
This notion that somehow we need to make nice about what abuse really means is total horseshit. These people need clear & realistic voices in storytelling. And they're not going to get it from JKR.
*fumes* *small mushroom cloud visible over Pikes Peak*
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Date: 2005-06-13 02:39 am (UTC)I like Snape but yeah if my child was in his classroom when he acts like such a sadist I would be seriously calling for his termination. And doing as much as I could to get him fired. I doubt he is that bad with other classes but his behavior towards Harry is inexcusable and he could benefit froma counselor also to deal with his issues.
Aside from Harry the idea that 11yr old kids are evil based on the selection of a ratty old hat, well you can imagine how I feel there. I liked the first books and now I want to know the rest but I still get hacked off at the neglect and outright corruption of the WW.
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Date: 2005-06-13 04:55 am (UTC)Children having to defeat evil is anathema. I already have enough problems knowing that most of the soldiers in Iraq are late teens and early 20's. I wish there were a way that old men like me & ol' W would be forced to go instead.
"Umbridge was just one more nail in the WW's coffin as far as I am concerned. Any gvt that corrupt deserves all the Dark Lord problems they get."
Unfortunately, most of those who suffer during war aren't soliders, but old men, women & children, especially children. So while the gov't of the WW may deserve that -- god knows what our gov't deserves -- it would be those most vulnerable who would pay.
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Date: 2005-06-13 07:34 pm (UTC)I have children the "right" age for Iraq and I know I am one the parent's the military recruiters hate. When the No Child Left Behind thing hit I made sure that our information was not accessable. My feeling at the time was if they wanted my kids they were going to have to work for it. My children have friends in Iraq and know some who've been killed or wounded there. And both of them are very aware that I am really against this war. Their father was in during the first Gulf War and they knew then we did not support that one either. Oddly enough my ex was pretty senior in the NCO ranks at the time and he volunteered to go on more than one occasion because he had the training the young ones did not. He felt and I understood his thoughts at the time, he had a better chance of keeping his people alive than others we knew who went.
The WW's gvt is corrupt but in all honesty reading about how gullible the populace is of that world I wonder if they even know how to think critically. Heinlein said once we get the government we deserve and they got that. I can see how Tom Riddle went to the bad the more we learn about that world in the books and while his pure blood supremacy thing is repugnant as hell, I could understand someone wanting it to change. What I don't understand is why so many there are sheep.
Yes the kids will suffer. We've already seen a truncated generation ahead of them. I am thinking the majority of casualties in the last one was that generation. I suspect the Grindelwald generation was hit hard too. I wonder just how long it will be before that world is no longer viable.
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Date: 2005-06-13 03:41 am (UTC)The joined hands -- Hmmmmm. It just seems like JKR is putting so much emphasis(through sorting hat songs, Dumbledore's words, statue in the Ministry lobby, and SPEW, etc) on wizards of different houses, different backgrounds, and even house-elves, centaurs, giants, and other intelligent beasts putting aside their differences and cooperating. It's being loudly shouted from the pages of canon that all four houses must eventually work together...or that's the point I'm seeing. I see the hand-holding as a symbol of that necessary cooperation. So my first thought was that the linked-hands represented that. As for the owners of those hands/arms...hmmm. Snape fits.
Since one arm/hand looks much older than the other arm/hand...I think the smaller one is clearly Harry.
I've read so much speculation that the hands belong to the HBP and Harry. That seems likely, but I sure wish we knew who the HBP was. (I'm betting that the HBP will be a new character, previously unintroduced).
I think that it could also be Dumbledore's hand with Harry's.
What I want to know is: what's with the cool magic stuff surrounding the clenched hands?
As for my "slashy heart," I'm one of the rare folks who'd like Harry to end up with Ron. I just don't understand why any pairing involving Ron seems to be so unpopular!
As for Snape, he belongs with me, damn it!And thanks for reminding me -- I need to post another death-list prediction soon about which character(s) will die!
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Date: 2005-06-13 04:53 am (UTC)The Death Lists will be out again. Having posted 2 that I remember I need to find them and think on them again. I know the *smart* money says Dumbledore. But, I will be very unhappy if he kickes off without acknowledging HIS choices had an impact on everyone else around him.